JBB is also useful at 60 for clearing trash mobs. With the changes to poison/disease hate generation this may not be as big of an issue, but this is another use case if you want to have your pet tank. If I was spamming Bane/Pox, I would need to face tank the cliff golem. In my cliff golem video JBB was how I was able to keep my pet on the top of the hate list. JBB is also not very high on hate generation. You can JBB in that time with no opportunity cost. If all your DoTs and debuffs are applied, you have nothing to do since you cannot cannibalize. You can get damage spiked and then have to wait 3 Torpor ticks to get back to safe levels. When fighting hard mobs this isn't always the case. You are assuming you always have the HP/Mana to cannibalize or DoT. The concept people are failing to grasp is HP and ManaĪre finite. If someone here can manipulate time and space I hope they are finding something better to do with that super power than sneaking in a 268dd click on an elf sim. This is math, not creative writing class… Torp heals for approximately 5x the DD of a JBB and is also a second quicker. Simply look at Bane…it does 6x the damage and is a 3 second quicker cast. Even if you could script the perfect rotation, which you can’t and it’s not legal anyways, I can’t imagine how you could fit in a JBB with efficiency. Player clicks are often less than robotically perfect. What people are failing to grasp is that time is a finite resource. Like make more mana while waiting for dots and torp to run its course. There are other things someone can do with that time. It’s “free” sub 60 but with Torp it’s an opportunity cost. So i end up just letting the pet do the dmg, spamming jbb and keep all my mana to re-slow and torp.īut maybe I'm just bad at the doing the shaman stuff. I'm telling you recovering your mana (canni-torp) after 4 resist of bane and pox from a maloed mob is a real PIA (you're spell will fizzle alot). I used to think Bane and pox was better but in practice those spells are really mana-expensive. But remember the Epic spear cost like 100k (if got it ezpz from your guild be appreciative of that ok.ok). If you can get an Epic,don't bother with a jbb. So back to the question: is it really that good? Yes! for 15k-20k it definitely is. You only realize how good it is when you don't have it. ![]() not too many classes (if any?) can boast that. ![]() Its not the best item in the world, and it does have its issues, but a free 283DD is a free 283DD. I ended up re-buying it and figuring out how to mq the childs tear and still keep it. i tried doing that once to fund my epic and i just missed having it in a pinch or to just speed burn something or kill lower lvl mobs when farming. I see what both sides of the coin are saying about the jbbīut as a shaman myself I will never sell mine. The benefit of the jbb isnt how much dmg it does, its that its mana free. Improve that and you might see some JBB usage! You can do Epic, JBB, survival, debuffs and damage. You simply don't have a good enough rotation, so you can't fit as much in. Then again, maybe I don’t sweat it because I have plenty of mana because I’m not wasting my time clicking an 8 sec JBB? So yeah I don’t sweat it if I lose a couple of ticks of mana-free epic dot between refreshes because it does have the least returns on time investment. Epic is a back loaded (most of the damage comes in the last third of its duration) 15.83 dps for a 9 second cast. EB is 26.6 dps for a single 6.1 second cast. When it comes to the application of damage, Bane is >36 dps for a single 5 second cast. Any efforts made at 3 imply you are winning at 1 and 2. Failure at 2 increases the likelihood of failure at 1. That is an issue with your playstyle, not an issue with JBB.įailure at 1 makes the rest irrelevant. If you are unable to re-apply your Epic buff every time it wears off on a tough mob, that simply shows you aren't very efficient with your spell usage. I've addressed these points and your math post points multiple times. The cool thing about the shaman class is that they are so incredibly overpowered that you can be successful even using the JBB or otherwise playing inefficiently.ĭSM is the poster child for this phenomenon apparently. JBB really is such a minor contribution that it doesn’t really fit well into the crap that needs to get done with finite time to get it done in. As for what to do when you have unspent time on your most important tasks (keeping it slowed/debuffed, refreshing dots, healing yourself, and casting canni) … click your epic! When fighting big ass nasty mobs, those other priorities are so high that I often find my epic dot will have worn off many ticks before I have a spare moment to refresh. Every click of JBB is 8 seconds lost that could be more productively used elsewhere.
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